Testimony From A Pain Patient, Re: Suboxone And Bupenorphrine


This is an email that I received from a chronic pain patient, Chuck Malinowski. He wanted to let me know about his experience with Suboxone/Bupenorphrine. He asked me to share it, after he had read my 2-3 articles about these harsh drugs that are being forced upon chronic pain patients at this time. The side effects from these partial opioid agonists, are much worse than our average opioids. While their analgesic effects are very low. They don’t do much in lowering the high impact pain that many people with long term, painful chronic illnesses live with. They have, however been proven to take the edge off of some lower pain illnesses in drug addicts who have to take it bcz they are unable to take “regular” opioids. The data suggests that it only really helps a little bit with addicts who need a bit of pain relief.

All of my research is backed up and linked to articles and research. Some is straight from the manufacturer of Suboxone/Bupenorphrine:

1) Regarding Bupenorphrine & Suboxone

3) About Suboxone, Bupenorphrine & Naloxone

4). More About Suboxone & Bupenorphrine

Here are some links to more articles where I researched information and came to these conclusions:

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(*This is where I got some of this information):

1. https://www..com/suboxone-creators-shocking-scheme-to-profit-off-of-heroin-addicts

2. https://www.drugs.com/suboxone.html

Articles that Explain The Bad effects of suboxone, bupenorphrine etc.

1.  Why Suboxone Treatment Can Be Harmful

2. The Suboxone Conspiracy

3. the ugly truth about suboxone withdrawals

***Below is an article straight from a patient:

Here is one Testimonial:

“Absolutely do not let your doctor put you on buprenorphine.
DO. NOT. DO. IT.
Unless it is an absolute life-threatening medical emergency, do not ever allow anyone to put you on either buprenorphine or Suboxone, which is a medication made with buprenorphine and even worse, and much more expensive.
Buprenorphine causes such a severe, and rapid physical dependency that after only using a comparatively small dosage, 16mg per day, for a single month it will take you a minimum of four, but probably five or six months of absolute hell to get off of.
This is not a medical opinion, or medical advice, this is the reality of what I am now living with, and have been for more than 10 weeks.
I was put on buprenorphine when my implanted pain pump ran out of morphine sulfate and I went into severe acute opiate withdrawal.
It was basically an emergency situation, the level of medication for my pain pump was the oral equivalent of 160mg of morphine a day, it was severe opiate withdrawal.
I did not have an addiction to opiates because this was intrathecal morphine – intrathecal delivery is when the medication is delivered in liquid form directly into your spinal column – but my body had a tremendous physical dependency.
Even so, I seriously regret being put on buprenorphine even if it was on emergency basis.
I was on 16mg of buprenorphine per day for five weeks after getting out of the hospital following treatment for severe acute opiate withdrawal.
The treatment was being put on Suboxone, later changed to just straight buprenorphine.
Within three weeks I started experiencing severe migraine headaches, ear aches, severe abdominal pains, diarrhea, severe sleep disturbances in the form of horrific nightmares – nightmares so bad I was afraid to go to sleep.
I also experienced drastic changes in body temperature, one minute I felt like I was roasting alive, the next minute I felt like I was freezing, sometimes I felt both at the same time.
I have been trying to get off of buprenorphine for 10 1/2 weeks now. I have been using every trick in the book to manage the horrible withdrawal symptoms. Herbal supplements, herbal teas, detox supplements, vitamins, OTC medications, etc.
And the withdrawal symptoms are truly horrible, even when simply reducing your dosage by 25%. It’s just as hard to cut your dosage from 5 mg a day to 4 mg a day as it is to cut your dosage from 16mg a day to 12mg a day.
This means that the closer you get to 0mg a day the harder it is to reduce your dosage, because you have to keep doing it by a relatively small percentage, 20 or 25% day over a period of two or three weeks.
It is so bad it gets to a point where you have to cut from 2mg per day, to 1mg per day – if you can even tolerate that big a cut at that point – to 1/2 mg per day, to 1/4 mg per day, to 1/8 of a milligram per day – and, according to my doctor, it can take weeks to do it. It took me 3 1/2 weeks of working at reducing my dosage from 6mg a day to 4mg a day before I could tolerate 4mg a day. It was extremely difficult, and painful every step of the way, and even so, I am suffering horribly.
Today is day number seven at 4mg a day. The last week has been unimaginably horrible – the entire process is unimaginably horrible – today is horrible, and I expect that I will feel like this for another week or two before I am stable at 4mg a day. 
Once I am stable – comfortable – at 4 mg a day I can try to start cutting my dosage to 3mg a day, and the entire nightmare process described below starts all over again, although in truth it never really stops it only gets less horrible, until you try and make your next dosage reduction.
At times feeling like I am burning alive, I feel like I am on fire inside and out. I frequently feel like somebody has put some horrible mind-bending drugs in my drinking water. Uncontrollable shakes and tremors. Uncontrollable whole body spasms were every muscle in my body suddenly goes completely rigid. Diarrhea. Severe sleep disturbances from absolutely horrible nightmares – my neuropsychologist tells me that nightmares are very common with buprenorphine. And you only have the nightmares if you’re lucky enough to be able to sleep in the first place. Or if you can even stay asleep because you’re going through such drastic changes in body temperature that you are frequently waking up and turning the fan on, or turning the fan off, or getting rid of the blanket, or pulling the blanket back on. 
Or, if you try and reduce your dosage a little too much, a little too quickly you wake up drenched in sweat with your clothes soaked through.
If you try and reduce your dosage a little too much, a little too quickly all of the above mentioned withdrawal symptoms are magnified several times over and it literally becomes a living hell. It can be as bad as full-blown acute opiate withdrawal from a high level of opiates. These are both things that I have lived through, so I know this from personal experience. 
Simply trying to get off of buprenorphine by slowly reducing my dosage over the last 10 1/2 weeks at a time has unquestionably been the single most difficult, painful and horrific experience of my life, aside from more than 10 years of Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy.
I have advanced Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy, also known as Chronic Regional Pain Syndrome. RSD/CRPS – as well as Trigeminal Neuralgia – has been called the most painful condition there is, it is also sometimes referred to as  ‘The Suicide Disease,” so when I say that getting off of buprenorphine is the most horrible and painful thing I have ever experienced that really means something.
I’ve already I’ve been weaning myself off buprenorphine for 10 1/2 weeks and I still have another 12 or 16 weeks to go – if I’m lucky. It may take even longer. And from what I have read, even once I have stopped taking buprenorphine completely, I can expect another month or two of significant withdrawal symptoms in the form of depression, anxiety, lethargy etc.
It is my personal opinion, based on more than 15 weeks of personal experience of being on buprenorphine, and 10 1/2 indescribably horrible weeks of trying to get off of buprenorphine, that this is a horrible medication, and for a chronic pain patient to use it as an alternative to opiates is a horrible mistake.
It is my personal opinion, based on personal experience, that putting chronic pain patients on either buprenorphine or Suboxone and telling them that it is a safe and effective alternative to opiates is a horrible scam.
It is my personal opinion, based on personal experience, that putting chronic pain patients on either buprenorphine or Suboxone and telling them that it is a safe and effective alternative to opiates is not only medically irresponsible, it is an outright lie.
Getting off of 40mg of hydrocodone per day after six months took two weeks and was no more unpleasant than a mild case of the flu.
With buprenorphine, it took 3 1/2 weeks to simply reduce my dosage from 6mg a day to 4mg a day and it was freaking horrible. I am still having extremely unpleasant withdrawal symptoms after being on 4mg a day for a week, and I expect this will continue for at least another week before I am stable.
STAY. THE. HELL. AWAY. FROM. BUPRENORPHINE.

Chuck Malinowski

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Regarding Buprenorphrine-Suboxone


Hello my friends! For this blog post you should probably grab yourself a cup of coffee and sit down to read this short story! I’m sorry that this article is more like a “short story” than a blog post! It’s twice as long as any of my normal posts would be. But this just meshed and I wanted this information available to you.

In my opinion, I would prefer no treatment than be forced to take some of these harmful/ horrific medications. By the way, I researched them and they are still not FDA approved for chronic pain patients.  In September 2018, a form of Bupenorphrine, a sublingual film, was FDA approved “for opioid use disorder. ” It was also approved for the maintenance of “opioid dependence”. But if your physician prescribes it for your chronic pain, “off label”; and you are not a patient with “Opioid use disorder” or an “Opioid abuser” then  you may possibly get a very low analgesic effect. Might as well take that Tylenol they’ve been pushing at us? It will help just about as much.  Well, you all know what I mean, right?

Here’s another thought:  Opioids, (*which are being demonized by our government now) can have a few side effects but normally they go away within a week or so after taking them. The side effects can be:

  1. Constipation
  2. Shallow breathing (but that is only if you take more than what is needed for your height/weight and medical conditions)
  3. Once in awhile you can get nausea and/or vomiting (but the nausea lasts a couple of days at the most.  I’ve not experienced vomiting from Opioids.

Here are the list of side effects for the FDA approved Bupenorphrine and Naloxone sublingual film (called Cassipa): Proof of these Side effects of this medication online

  1. oral hypoeshesia (numbness),
  2. glossodynia (burning mouth)
  3. oral mucosal erythema (inflammation of the oral mucous membrane *sores in your mouth*
  4. headache,
  5. nausea
  6. vomiting,
  7. hyperhidrosis (excessisve sweating)
  8. constipation,
  9. **SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF WITHDRAWAL**
  10. Insomnia
  11. **PAIN**
  12. Peripheral edema (accumualtion of fluid causing swelling in the lower limbs

**THESE PRODUCTS MAY ONLY BE PRESCRIBED BY DRUG ADDICION TREATMENT ACT (DATA)-CERTIFIED PRESCRIBERS. With this list of side effects and all of the warnings, how or why is is supposed to be OK to use, but other

***BELBUCA:  is another type of “opioid”, similar to the above, but without the Naloxone. It is also a partial antagonist. (**It is very different from the kind Opioids that most pain patients are familiar with. The opioids that we know are able to help alleviate high amounts of daily, round the clock, high impact chronic pain).

I visited the Belbuca online and their website has a bunch of videos showing people with chronic pain and how this medcation has supposedly helped them (they are paid actors most likely).  The list of effects appear to be much longer and worse, in my opinion. The list of bad effects on the majority of opioids that many chronic pain patients have safely taken for years; or even decades, appears to be much less toxic and life altering or even, threatening.  On that same page, they say that “Methadone maintenance is  helpful for people who don’t do well with buprenorphrine. But people (mainly addicts) have to visit a clinic daily to recive that treatment.”  Our favorite guy (*cough cough), Kolodny, says now that “Suboxone is a viable treatment akin to buprenorphrine.” *Also, did you know that once you take Bupenorphrine or Suboxone, you will be labeled an “addict” & no longer a chronic pain patient/warrior! See: Opioid Addiction Treatments). Kolodny ‘s trying to not only rid the USA, but the world possibly, of opioids and replace them with much more harsh opioids! Suboxone which he calls “akin to buprenophrine” has been proven to have none or a very low analgesic effect. If taken, this so called medicine, LABELS you for life as an “ADDICT”. Yes, you are labeled for life as an addict if you accept Kolodny’s “get rich scheme” & take these harsh addiction medications! They are very different from normal pain medications that most people with long term chronic pain illnesses have been doing well on, for decades! Suboxone & Bupenorphrine also have a long list of worse than horrible side effects. Why & how are these OK to give to sick people living with horrific amounts of daily pain? People who are seeking any kind of reprieve, relief from their painful existence in hell.

Please be aware of this crooked switch to these harsh addiction medications. Please understand that the cowardly physicians, who prescribe these meds, do not have the patients best interest at heart. Instead they’re lining Kolodny’s and others wallets and bank accounts.

All the while we are suffering and being lumped together with addicts (yes, they need help too. But that is their story to tell). I have testimonials a mile long from several persons who had been prescribed these harsh addiction medications & who’ve taken one form or another of Bupenorphrine or Suboxone. They said “it was the worst medication they’d ever taken and it has horrific side effects that are unrelenting & never ending. IF you dare try to go off of it, or taper down (*as you can do with the regular kinds of opioids that most patients are familiar with), those medications tend to pull you in even deeper. They’re designed to keep you addicted . They work against your body and majorly increases your pain so that you won’t stop taking it. You cannot ever go off of it “cold turkey”. If you try, then you may experience withdrawals that I’ve been told are hellish. Worse than anything I’ve ever heard about regarding opioid withdrawals.

In a future blog post, I will try to add more & organize them. I’ll let you read what others have sent to me. I have permission from several persons because they want you to know what they have had to endure; in order to save you from going through the same hellish experiences.

DISCLAIMER: *I AM STATING THAT THIS MEDICATION IS NOT GOOD FOR HELPING THE CHRONIC PAIN PATIENTS! BUT IT MAY BE A “WEAK ANALGESIC” THAT COULD HELP AN ADDICT, A DRUG ADDICT, WHO LIVES ALSO WITH CHRONIC PAIN! That’s what it’s good for!!

Kratom, Great Help For Most but Deadly for Some


Hello Luvs,

There was a bit of a debate in one of my groups, regarding Kratom. I know it’s so helpful for many people. I do not think the government should step in and ban this too!! It’s relatively safe but I was discussing that it can and may help loads of chronic pain patients, but not everyone!

Like anything else, you need to discuss it with your Dr ahead of time and please get an EKG first. I have several complicated heart arrhythmias. One is pretty uncommon but most people don’t even know that they have it until they die from “sudden cardiac death” (which is its only symptom). It’s called “Long QT syndrome”. There are many thousands of medications on the “DO NOT TAKE” list with long QT syndrome. The list updates daily and herbs such as Kratom, Turmeric & Ginseng are among the things that people with LQTS cannot take. Please just be safe and I hope you continue to have or get access to whatever kind of pain relief works for you!

But please check out this article I’ve posted below:

**This article is mysteriously gone now? It disappeared from the internet: **Just a little info about Kratom before you take it

**(4-2019)now this is what shows up instead:

Living Through Betrayal And Withdrawals


I’d gone to a pain Dr for 3-4 yrs s/p a MVA . I had multiple injuries/surgeries. They forced me to take opioids! I was afraid of them. Not for any reason; because I have no history of smoking or drinking or taking any kind of meds! I have a letter that the pain psychologist wrote, stating that I “don’t have an addictive personality.”…..so then I did all of the injections etc. & all of the PT-OT, Biofeedback etc. They wanted to give me an Intrathecal pain pump. Then we found that I am not a candidate due to Combined Immune deficiency disease. Soooo then the pain Dr “dumped” me off back to my GP for pain meds only! He said the the “Govt. looks at him through a microscope” so he wanted my GP to do the meds. So that was 2005 and in 2014-Dec., my GP had Feds at his office & he was removed from that office & sent to an urgent care! I was stuck because nobody wanted to prescribe the fentanyl losenges and patches for me (with Dilauded for emergency). I went back to my old pain Dr and he refused to see me! He said that “he didn’t want any part of that other Dr.’s (the GP) mess”! He wanted to send me to his “pain Dr. friend!” I researched the guy to find out that he was or is actually an addiction specialist. There was no way I was going there! I’ve never even smoked cigarettes! There’s no way I was allowing “that” to follow me around in my medical records. So I did it on my own! The partner GP offered to help me for a few months but asap I was told to find another pain Dr.. But I wasn’t just told that, I was badgered over & over again to go to that specialist. I lowered my doseages myself. When I finally found a kind pain Dr. who was respectful towards me; he told me that even though I’ve had a CVA and an MI, I was to “stop the Fentanyl losenges cold turkey!” I had gotten myself down to half of the amount of the patch. I stopped the losenges on my own, on the day that the new pain Dr. told me to. He told me that I never should’ve been on them in the first place. They’re for terminal cancer patients and even he’s not fond of them! He was visibly upset that I’d been on them for about 10 years! So I got down to half of the patch amount and to zero losenges! I was very very ill! The new pain Dr. told me that my body would be “fooled” because he gave me a smaller amount of opioids & I was still on half of the amount of the patch! Well, I’m here to tell you that my body was not fooled! Nothing was fooled and I was sweating, nauseated, had diarrhea and got very high fevers and blood pressures! I started researching withdrawals myself. Nobody was helping me, except my poor husband, who was feeling helpless. Nobody felt as alone and helpless as me during those dark days! I was so happy to have my loving husband to take me by the hands & walk with me through it all. It was a horrible 1st week; like the flu, but worse because the pain was so much higher. After about 6 weeks, things got better. But I must tell you that I never once craved the medication! I was happy to be rid of those losenges, actually. I’m very proud of myself for what I did all on my own, for the most part. I now have a wonderful pain Dr. Who cared enough about me to let me go and not treat me if I couldn’t do what needed to be done. I did it and I’ve done it and now I’m on about half as much medicine as I was on during those 10 years. I also feel like my pain Dr and I mutually respect each other. I did something by myself, that many or most people couldn’t do even with help!

I still take pain medications. I wanted to take them only once in awhile,, when in Agony; but my Legitimate chronic pain Physician told me that I have too many high pain chronic illnesses; that would be detrimental to my health. I live with pho of a stroke (CVA) and a heart attack. I live with lasting effects and pain from a TBI (3 yrs of brain injury rehab); along with full body/Systemic CRPS, Polyneuropathy In Collagen Vascular Disease (aka Ehlers Danlos Syndrome Type 4-Vascular), Rheumatoid Disease, Chiari with Chiari Migraines, Degenerative Disc Disease with multiple herniated & bulging discs, right Long thoracic Nerve Neuropathy, Lymphedema,Dysautonomia/POTS, Gastroparesis, S.I.B.O. (Chronic small intestine infection)…..

So I took my team of Drs advice and I take my medication as prescribed. They say that I have too many high chronic pain illnesses and that if I do not take it as I’m advised, I will be in intolerable pain. If one is “lucky” enough to only need pain medication once in awhile or for special occasions, that is great for you! I’m very happy for you. But as for me, I want to be the best wife, mother of 2, grandmother of 3, patient health advocate, US Pain Ambassador, Mentor, writer, Blogger and published author for the National Pain Report; that I can be! I don’t fear losing pain medications, I fear losing my life due to under-treated or un-treated pain.

So just remember that there are always people better off and worse off than you! Do not judge someone for the way they choose to live or the way they just get by day to day. There are reasons that may be unknown to you for why they need the various medications and dosages. It may be different for you; but please don’t judge because it might be different from your regimen. Different types of pain relief, from complimentary therapies, to Medical Marijuana to pain relieving medications; any of these may be exactly what various chronic pain patients need. They may need any of the above, or a combination of these to relieve varying degrees of torturous daily chronic pain.This is not a competition and there are no winners!